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On a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being the best rating), how do you rate Turnabout Redemption?
10 42%  42%  [ 11 ]
9 12%  12%  [ 3 ]
8 8%  8%  [ 2 ]
7 23%  23%  [ 6 ]
6 8%  8%  [ 2 ]
5 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
4 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
3 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
2 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
1 8%  8%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 26

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BB and Meph- I'll PM you. I saw your messages.

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I agree with a lot of what BB said. (And the part I disagree with are his acceptance of inferiority :P) This isn't a competition... okay, the trial competition is a competition, but this isn't your comp entry xD This is just about making good, enjoyable trials. I doubt there's anyone here who doesn't have insecurities and fears about their trials... I mean, there are certain trials on here that make me go "Jeez, why do people seem to like my trials so much when there's THIS". Just keep your head high, make the best trials you can, and don't worry too much about what other people are doing.


Also, if you're concerned about not getting attention... go look at my Silence of the Turnabout thread. It's 4 pages long. A "good" trial doesn't need to have a big thread, and a big thread doesn't mean it's a good trial.

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Indeed. I agree with the others, but I must say, while I empathise with the fangame-demotivation side, you have to force yourself to see things differently. You should aspire for your fangame to be as good as JM, Silence, Hope, and more. :D Use them as your inspiration to make the best cases you possibly can! Your trial can be legendary as well... But only if you put your mind to it. We're trying to help you. :)

Trust me, when I play your case, and I will, I'm sure I will find it to be fantastic. :)

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Ryu Ushiromiya wrote:
I'll summarize with this: I'm an idiot who can't accept that he's a miserable rookie with no experience who can never be as good as others because of that fact. That's why I'm breaking.



Ryu. Listen for a sec.

I don't care about the fact that you try to advertise your trial alot.
I don't care about the fact that you have a hard time opening your mind to criticism.
I don't really care how you judge or critique other trials.
I don't even really care about the fact that you can't tell if someone is taking sarcasm.

I might get abit of negative reactions to how I word my post at this point, but I'd rather be straight to the point.

But if there's one thing that's absolutely made me ACTUALLY annoyed with you, is you keep your head down and put yourself down for no justifiable reason, even blame yourself for something that people will perceived to be confused by, and make it come off as a sob story.

I didn't think I'd get annoyed to a point where I actually feel like I'm gonna get angry and slap you to your senses.
And yes, I know you have autism, but we can definitely work with you, you just have to give YOURSELF a chance to be a much more positive person, it makes a world of difference from the way your attitude is, and boost your self-esteem so you can be confident in what you do.

So instead of me trying to reply harshly on why you should be more optimistic and much more chill, I'm going to refer you to this post, which I politely ask you seriously read:
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Ryu, you're comparing yourself too much to BP and Ping', and all those other great entries. Stop. You don't need to be important and vital as them. So what if they release some great stuff? This isn't some sort of contest. The goal here that we aim for, or at least the one I am for, is to make things that people will enjoy. I accepted my inferiority to titans like BP, Ping, Narokh, Tap, and what have you a long time ago. I'm not as good as them. So what? Does that mean I should discontinue my series? Does that mean I shouldn't be allowed to make it? Of course not! You've released an enjoyable trial for all of the community to enjoy. So what if it's not the best one on the site? I enjoyed it. Meph enjoyed it. ED enjoyed it. BP seems to enjoy it. You've got fans. People like your work. If people like what you're doing, what is there to be depressed about? It's not about how many people are following you, it's about people following you in the first place. You've got potential to make an amazing series. Do NOT blow it.

I have autism, much like you. If I can work through this issue, so can you.

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I'll be honest... The most serious offense you've committed on AAO is constant posting that you're negative... And that's not an offense at all. You have to find it within yourself to stop being so negative. It can eat you up whole if you can't try to become positive. Just breathe and relax.. And take your own advice: just breathe and relax and get off the computer for a while. Calm down... Breathe... Breathe... Breathe... Let all the anger out elsewhere... Let all your negativity out elsewhere... Breathe... Breathe... Breathe...

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Hopefully the point has been made now that there are no negative feeling between ourselves here. If anyone does dislike Ryu or anyone else, then they should know better and grow up. ;)

Let's end this conversation now and get back on topic. :)

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Um... hello.

Just dropping by to say thank you for your words, and to apologize about my little drama show. I still have to be away though, due to school. But I'll stop by once in a while. And no, I'd rather not talk about the past. So questions and comments about it will have none from me.

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From the looks of it, I think Ryu was feeling put down by Meph's trial review, and he started putting himself down?
And it was sorted out before I sawhit.

Unnescassary pun is unnescassary.

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Nah, it wasn't because of Meph's review. It was something else I'd rather not discuss.

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So let's not discuss it.

How you doing with the changes, Ryu?

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I'll start editing the trials today. I'll follow Meph's recommendations and then... I dunno. But so far I might start an investigation for case 2. I dunno.

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Hey Ryu,

This review is long over-due. I think I was being a bit too though-out with my review, so I wasn't really getting anywhere.
Please note that this is only from Part 1 (I don't plan to write a review for other parts if my comments are more-or-less the same).

Turnabout Redemption: Review

Spoiler : Impressive Points :
  • This case feels more full-bodied than many other first cases that I’ve seen. Mind you, I haven’t played a lot, but this one does feel like it has a lot to work off of.
  • This case has a great storyline idea. I had never thought of a case in which Phoenix is defending someone that he had previous committed to jail. At first I thought that her sprites were going to be used for a new character (which would have been fine). But it turned out that you are actually defending the real Vasquez because of a murder that happened within jail, and I thought this was a great premise.
  • I also thought it was very interesting that the victim was unidentified. This adds a lot of mystery. Who was it that was killed? Was it a character we already know from the Phoenix Wright games? Who killed her? It could have been any of the inmates, or possibly someone else. There are so many unknowns, yet I was intrigued right from the beginning because of the premise, and also:
  • Miles Edgeworth is the prime witness. The rational behind why he was there is believable.
  • The Autopsy Report. I really liked how detailed it was, because it meant there was a notable amount of information to go on, and to sift through to compare with other clues and statements.
  • The characters are mostly in-character, and they represent the character that they were in the real games.
  • You used some techniques for creating more challenging contradictions for sure, such as placing the contradicting evidence within the cross-examination, and situations that require more than one piece of evidence to explain your contradiction.


Spoiler : Improvement Points :
  • Sometimes the wording is a bit ambiguous. The biggest example that I can think of for this is in the first cross-examination. Edgeworth says that he received a call at 6:50, however it doesn’t say WHERE he was or HOW he received the call, so in my mind, he was in his office when he received the call, meaning that there was no contradiction with the cell phone. It should be established that he meant he received a call on his cell phone, either by saying that directly in the press conversation, or implying it by where he was (for example if he was driving at the time). There was nothing that was written so that I could deduce that he meant he got the call on a cell phone. While I like the idea of making challenging contradictions (obviously), it can be frustrating when the reason I can’t find the contradiction is because the wording is not specific enough. Other than that, though, this was a good contradiction.
  • When the right evidence is presented, sometimes the explanation as to why it was the correct choice is not as clear as I am used to seeing. There’s no reason to make the contradiction challenging AFTER it has already been found.
  • Presentation issues: This is a very common one, and easy not to notice until you compare it to the real games: whenever two or more sentences are said in the same textbox, there should be a short pause between them. I failed to do this in all the trials I made prior to Round 4 of TOG, but plan to implement them from now on. You can add a short pause by typing [#p25] where you want the pause to occur. That’s ¼ of a second, which does make a difference in-game. No need to go back and change all those now, but in the future it might be a good idea.
  • I’ll post some more SFX and Music from TOG as you requested to use it in your games.


Anyway, good first outing with a solid plot and great prospects! I think it could be great if the scripting were clearer, but maybe that’s just me.

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I'm reeeeeeeally late to this party, but I finally found the time to beat this case!
Very well done, I love the prologue. The murder itself is very dark and edgey, and I like that. You balanced the gruesome murder method out well with the humor. 8) I'm looking forward to case 2.

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Thank you! :D I admit I was partly inspired by... uh... wait, what did I base this on again? XD

Anyways, yeah I like to balance things out. Though I regret the Jerry jokes have to go since Meph says it doesn't fit with a serious case. T_T That said, I still have to play yours, and I will ASAP... just as soon as I'm done reading through today's lectures and next week's. D: *dead*

EDIT: TRAILER COMING SOON. :D

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I'm looking forward to your feedback! :) Good luck with all your school work! I know how tough it can be to manage everything. 8)

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