Right. Tomorrow, I've got myself the time to sit down and play for 5 or 6 hours STRAIGHT. I only hope that will be enough to complete the Opening. Seems 2 hour bursts just aren't enough. SCREW MY SPARE TIME. IT BECOME JM TIME.
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:23 pm
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Right. Tomorrow, I've got myself the time to sit down and play for 5 or 6 hours STRAIGHT. I only hope that will be enough to complete the Opening. Seems 2 hour bursts just aren't enough. SCREW MY SPARE TIME. IT BECOME JM TIME.
Oh, dear. I hope you realise Opening is, in comparison to the trials, far, far shorter? Aha, maybe you should play through Sirens first, only taking small notes here and there, and then going back over it a second time? That way, it allows you to experience the game before completing the QA... Your choice, but good luck! =)
DarthWiader wrote:
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After replaying Departed, I’m still stick on my theory that the whole assassination was a big set-up. The President has been shot right after signing an act which allows to take his body by respective authorities. I find it as a strange and convenient coincidence. Too convenient, in fact. This whole case is based only on Arthur’s testimony and Hall’s confession (and I don’t buy her motive). After all, Commander was the one who picked up and transported the body and denounced Scarlet. Broken needle found on crime scene in combination with mysterious substance from the bottle found in Commander’s garage leads me to a hypothesis that Tradimento was somehow drugged to look dead. Another thing that bugs me, it's a surprisingly small amount of blood, considering location of the wound. An interesting idea, but one I can't reply to properly until Departed is out. The problem with Departed's crime is that any form of reply would be a major spoiler, including this one, so I have to word my answers incredibly carefully. All I'll say is you've analysed the elements of the crime scene well... There aren't that many in particular -- in fact, it was rather tough writing the overview quite a while ago because I couldn't think of elements of evidence to add in. The crime... is so straight-forward in some aspects, xD
Are you suggesting Gaines is hiding something? If the mysterious substance is indeed a sedating agent, why would Gaines go along with it? Will the investigation reveal Gaines' dead body on the second floor? And will Vulper show his face?
Hall, Gaines and maybe even the President himself may be all in cahoots. I don’t know their goals, though. I don’t believe that Lance’s death was the work of THREAT. Act Tradimento was aimed in particularly against them. If they wanted to take him down, they would try to kill him before the signing. All of them in cahoots...? Quite an interesting theory you have there. The trial will explore the goals and motives of the murder of President Tradimento, so no need to worry. It'll be quite a long trial too.
Next, look on an autopsy report. It's fake. C’mon guys, that’s Tap we are talking about! After that highly-detailed crime report in MSAT, not to mention long-as-hell Act Tradimento, would he really give us so lame, dashed away autopsy report? ''Penetrating trauma to the neck''? What an unclear and vague description! Why not ''bullet shot'' or something like that? I guess it would suffice (I know, the murder weapon was a bit unusual...)! Well, an 'autopsy report' isn't the same as a 'crime report'... But you make a good point. I'm not saying anything, though~
It reminds me of
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Turnabout Inferno, where autopsy report
was also a sham. Perhaps. Any obvious grammatical errors in it?
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PS. The telly in Polly’s apartment seems to be normal, modern flat TV-set, but when it comes to watch the show, its screen looks like in old models. Was that, by chance, intentional? A mistake I made... I'll be updating the screen in the next release to be more reflective of the TV-set.
DarthWiader wrote:
It has nothing to do with my theory (in fact, it can contradict it ), but I've just found something very peculiar... Ah, I wondered when anyone would notice...
Spoiler : MAYBE SERIOUS JM SPOILER :
Lance di tradimento is Italian for "lances of betraylal" (*proof). Correct. "Tradimento" is a direct English translation of the Italian word for "betrayal". "Lance" derives from the pole weapon, of course... which in myths and legends, were used to fight and slay Dragons.
The name Lances of Betraylal comes from a manga series (published by SquareEnix) entitled Übel Blatt, which has been translated into French.
Tap, Ping... is there something you want to share with the rest of the class ? It doesn't help that I'm a massive fan of anything produced by Square Enix, does it? ;p
Enthalpy: I'll reply later today. It's 7:21 AM over here... ;p
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:21 pm
Enthalpy
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3209 frames. Once again, quite impressive. 2:30 and we’re only a little over halfway through this trial Justice will be here until 6. 48: Remove the first comma. Weird. Sometimes the text blips die halfway through a long frame. Must be an editor glitch specific to Chrome. (I can’t stand having the screen be so small in FF, and otherwise I have to put instant text display on.) 61: Comma after “verdict” 67: Add an opening parenthesis. There’s a catch. Of course there’s a catch. Oh, this brings back memories of 1-4. Right after the guilty, a loser of a witness shows up out of the blue. And then Phoenix says the same thing. 126: Comma after “it” 128: Remove comma. 139: Remove the comma after “or” Name and occupation went surprisingly smoothly. 174: Comma after “Commander” 179: You need an opening ellipsis. I was an expecting a “Into the man’s chest the cold blade did sweep!” 208: Change “on” to “one” Yay, a drunk witness. This brings a whole new meaning to “incredible” OK… How to tackle this testimony… There are a few interesting parts, so I’ll start with pressing. 236: Discrimianted? Odd word. 335: Comma after “certain” 336: Remove the second comma. OK, the lag is returning. Come to think of it, I played on Chrome a bit in part five, so that may have been the source of those lag issues. Switching to Firefox. It’s weird that he knew Thalassa was Lamiror, but if he’s been following the trial, it makes sense. Strudle head! 302+303+304: Comma after “symmetrical” 326: Break up “anymore” OK, Gaines is hilarious. He claims perfect vision because he’s Zhenganese. Alright, I’ve finishes pressing everything. Now just to clean up any contradictions. OK, Room 1001 contradiction spotted. You do love those memory contradictions, don’t you? Now to see how Gaines handles this. Either way, I think I can use this to support my theory. 378: Comma after “accommodation” Hmm… I very much doubt Gaines is telling the truth. He had four minutes to descend eight floors, order and have his meal prepared. Even then, there is the huge issue of who gave him the package. Yeah, it makes no sense. I can’t have him be dismissed, but I have no proof or even an idea. A reservation…?! I considered that, but I thought that if he had such a thing, surely Gaines would have bothered to TELL US THAT. *sigh* Yeah, I’m putting instant on. I can’t stand this any longer. This testimony gives Hall a perfect alibi. There’s got to be some flaw… Wait a minute… I see the contradiction clear as day. This contradicts Hall’s testimony about a delay in the kitchen. All I need is the evidence to prove it. First, I’ll press everything to see if I can draw anything out. Kudos on going so long without a correction, by the way. 654: You have double punctuation. The Edgeworth Dictionary. That’s great. The example is even better! I thought it was Scarlet Hall, not the Room Service Records, but I still spotted it without too much trouble. And come to think of it, it’s another contradiction with a heavy memory requirement. And, an ace in the hole for my theory. Gaines lied to give Hall an alibi. 740: Remove comma. I know who it was… THE BELLBOY WITH A WIG, COLORED CONTACTS, AND A REVEALING TOP! Yep, just as predicted. Apollo knows Gaines sub-consciously? (Thank you bracelet!) Just how involved is Apollo with UI-4? 839: Add “end” between “an to” Come on, Apollo! The Bellboy was an accomplice and Hall was the real killer! Prove it! YES! Hall is now on the stand! I noticed how her account contradicts Oldbag’s a lot earlier, so this part wasn’t that hard for me. Ha. Flirting with the enemy. 1129: This frame strikes me as awkward. Lady Justice? So now she’s a prosecutor too? 1152: Comma after “locked” and “answering” 1188: Comma after “locked” and “answering” Alright, first order of business, press everything. The only thing I can see is that Scarlet doesn’t explain the locked room, but Edgeworth already did. 1206: Remove the apostrophe in “chef’s” 1244: Comma after “public” I can’t keep up with all these middle names of hers. Scarlet-Don’t-Mess-With-Me-When-I’m-Simply-Making-Sense-Hall, perhaps? 1346: You need an opening parenthesis. OK, I’ve gone through all the pressing and nothing is particularly sticking out at me. Since I’m not certain, I’ll just have to do some educated guessing. Besides, the last two times I look for a hint, I got spoiled. I am NOT going through that again, especially since this isn’t even a super. I knew that the Card Key would be a problem because de Killer couldn’t have gotten his hands on it, so I presented it everywhere and got lucky. Unless I’m missing something, that contradiction was illogical. Hall’s statement can just as easily be explained by the card not being where it was supposed to, exactly like Hall said yesterday and the evidence says now. I would say her efforts were in vain because she couldn’t find the key card, not because she couldn’t use it. Further that by the time she had given up, the door was already broken down. 1363: Double punctuation. 1395: What is this frame even saying? 1450: Comma after “seriously” 1499: Comma after “here” A bit before 1507, there’s a blank frame. Alright, the contradiction here is easy to spot. Thank you TDG. 1576+1577: Merge. 1607: Why is Edgeworth speaking in co-counsel?! 1608: Comma after “installation” Well, so much for the contradiction I thought I had. Ha, glass cannon. 1629: Comma after “child” After a while, I just gave up on the knife problem. I’m really frustrated with myself, to be honest. If I can’t get the contradiction within three minutes of having pressed everything, it seems like there’s only a 5% chance I ever manage to figure it out on my own. Yay, final testimony. Motive? That’s it… I think I can do this one, actually. According to my theory, she was being blackmailed over UI-4. 1896: Comma after “Perceive” Super-objection? Hmph. Easy enough. The file on Hyde was kept hidden, so that has to be part of it. Hyde File, UI-4 and Hall’s profile! Portsman… OK… I went wrong somewhere. Fine. Let’s try removing the Hyde files. Nope. Let’s take the original three, adding the 2016 files. Looked for a hint on this one. It turned out that I was a bit off. It was done voluntarily, not out of blackmail. So, UI-4, the confidential files and the calling card. I was too blinded by my own theory to get the hint in the game about how the reason why she brought up de Killer was relevant. Part of this was just me being foolish, again, but I think another part was just how insanely difficult super objections could be. 2090: Change “tells” to “tell” Hmm? I just noticed this now, but I don’t recall hearing anything on this tip-off during the investigation. I remember the hotel being locked down, but not the reason why. 2155+2156: Comma after “it” 2164: Change “to” to “too” 2189 AND 2190 AND 2191: Change “, which” to “that” 2220: Remove the comma 2261 and 2262: Wrong evidence. 2268: Comma after “hide” Ugh. This difficulty is completely over-the-top by this point. I don’t know if I’ll be able to finish this without going insane. Alright, bluffed my way through that present, and first try too. This is the one case where evidence law matters. The one. Evidence to prove the obvious… You have got to be kidding me. More bluffing. Great. Only one shot per refresh. Marvleous. OK… I’m pretty sure there’s a location that needs to be swept. Now to think through this. Oldbag’s testimony says that Hall was still in uniform until she left. The “Bellboy” wasn’t there long, so this leads me to conclude she used the secret passage of Room 214. 2559: Change to question I give up. I’m looking in the walkthrough. Wait a minute… She was locked inside?! Words cannot express my frustration right now. I specifically went back to Part One to see if there was any way that was possible. I thought that not even Wright and Trucy would possibly miss that Hall was in the room before them, and that would be way too similar to Virtual. And come to think of it… This contradicts Oldbag! 2649: Comma after “surprised” 2737: Comma after “record” Of course, Thalassa never gives a name! 2815: Comma after “committed” Wait, now the Oldbag testimony means something? This makes less and less sense. Wait… Now I’m really confused. How did Oldbag see Scarlet? *sigh* This is what you get for using forged evidence, Phoenix. Err? What happened at the end there? Did Thalassa die or what?
CONCLUSION:
I hate to say it, but the ending was a massive disappointment, and for one simple reason. I don’t know what the other people who played this thought, but for me, this was around halfway between One Hell of a Turnabout and Turnabout of Courage in difficulty. Gaines’s testimonies were fine; a bit easy for me, but fine. Then the time came to accuse Hall, and after that, everything fell downhill. I already ranted about the first testimony. The second one was good. (I was just being a fool about it.) Third testimony... I have to take some credit for my troubles on this one, but even if I hadn’t decided that there was blackmail involved, I probably would never have gotten that combination of evidence. I really, really hate super-objections. After that last cross-examination, I could understand what was being said, but it stopped making sense. I had to look up the answer or some rather large hints every single time, except presenting Hyde’s Assassination and Michelle Hyde. I still have no idea how Oldbag’s Testimony happened.
There’s not much else I can say, really. You probably observed this, but as the trial went on, I had less to say and was less attentive. The characters were good. I did like Trucy’s return and Gaines’s testimony, as well as the dynamic between Hall and Ballard. Presentation was OK… I was too busy trying to keep up with the logic to care that much for the story.
I really don’t know what happened here. Maybe having instant text display on took away the time it took for my brain to process the information. Maybe this part just was harder because it was the end. Maybe I got too frustrated after that second cross… I'm just sorry that I can't say I enjoyed this part.
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:56 pm
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No clue what it helped you with, but... You're welcome.
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As I recall, there was a testimony or two where the contradiction was that Naota couldn't have gotten into the crime scene after it was barred shut. I thought it was the same thing this time, but with Hall, but there is a dual set of locks.
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:14 am
Tap
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I hate to say it, but the ending was a massive disappointment, and for one simple reason. I don’t know what the other people who played this thought, but for me, this was around halfway between One Hell of a Turnabout and Turnabout of Courage in difficulty. Gaines’s testimonies were fine; a bit easy for me, but fine. Then the time came to accuse Hall, and after that, everything fell downhill. I already ranted about the first testimony. The second one was good. (I was just being a fool about it.) Third testimony... I have to take some credit for my troubles on this one, but even if I hadn’t decided that there was blackmail involved, I probably would never have gotten that combination of evidence. I really, really hate super-objections. After that last cross-examination, I could understand what was being said, but it stopped making sense. I had to look up the answer or some rather large hints every single time, except presenting Hyde’s Assassination and Michelle Hyde. I still have no idea how Oldbag’s Testimony happened.
I can understand how you have such a view, but surprisingly enough, Trial ~ Conclusion has been the favourite trial part for most of the players here... Back when I had the trials being rated, Trial ~ Beginning, one of my favourite parts in terms of gameplay objectives, barely received any votes... the first day of trial was very much along a similar rhythm. Conclusion overtook the two proving to be the more popular part, maybe in part due to its return to conventional AA methods. The difficulty is a bit shocking to hear, as I thought it was far easier in this part, although I will humbly admit my super-objections! deserve rewording and more hinting... I'm mostly quite surprised at the issues with Hall's first testimony.
The issues with the first testimony... No one has raised questions about it being illogical before. The most I've had is that the players knew what the issue would be, but would present the card key on the wrong statement. Given that the issue of the master card key being identified during the confrontation with the bellboy in Trial ~ Beginning, I thought it would be a clear-cut contradiction. She flat out states in the contradictory statement that "Yes, it was there and so I did pick it up." Considering the issues of guilt stockpiling up against Hall, and that this directly contradicted the card key, she couldn't give the same explanation as yesterday.
What was the first contradiction you had in mind for the second testimony, the one "TDG" gave you an idea of? [EDIT: Redacted since you posted an answer. Yes, dual locks... ^^]Blackrune and a couple of others did point out a further contradiction with the door, but I tried to clear it up in a press conversation with how the manual/automatic locks work on doors like the ones in Gatewater Imperial... The knife has surprised me at how much controversy it has generated. I thought it would be a further easy contradiction, given Hall had no chance to learn the fingerprints had been wiped, due to her being in the Prosecutor's Lobby/Witness's Lounge and then in detention where no information would come by her...
Oldbag's Testimony... might have been an issue of how the trial was interpreted, and how I presented it. The view the attacker had to have been in the victim's room all that time was first given credibility in Edgeworth's first rebuttal with the statement about De Killer being unable to leave. Although that argument was slowly forgotten as further issues rose, the card key returned to it for a moment, and it was then briefly covered in Apollo's 'flashback' before he accused Hall. Oldbag's Testimony is simple. She claims to have seen a bellboy by their crème uniform. Gaines also claims to have seen a bellboy, or rather, someone wearing the uniform from his window at the restaurant. Given the assumption the attacker had to stay behind, or risk jeopardising their suspicions about Apollo's prints on the inside door handle, this triggers the search for the jacket, which is then found in the ensuite. Oldbag's Testimony delivers the coup de grâce, proving the bellboy she saw leave couldn't have been Hall.
I'm disappointed to hear the ending was a disappointment for you. Conclusion does return to the usual AA conventions, and throws a lot information in your face, one testimony after another... Perhaps if I had approached it from a different direction, this problem might haven't been there. Still... your comments have been extremely valuable, and I'm glad you enjoyed playing Sirens (except Conclusion ). I hope there were some parts of Conclusion you did enjoy, though... Such as the dynamics, as you pointed out, and the tying up of the plots. I'll be applying your bug reports as soon as I have the time to do so!
With your comments about the actual 'ending'... well, what's presented is a heart monitor flatlining in in the Intensive Care Ward of Hickfield Clinic. Whether or not it is Thalassa is something you'll find out in Chapter 1 of The Departed Turnabout, which is currently available. It far exceeds Sirens' opening, according to player reports, so I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
Thanks for playing! It's been a pleasure to read and reply to your reports!
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:22 am
Enthalpy
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I hate to say it, but the ending was a massive disappointment, and for one simple reason. I don’t know what the other people who played this thought, but for me, this was around halfway between One Hell of a Turnabout and Turnabout of Courage in difficulty. Gaines’s testimonies were fine; a bit easy for me, but fine. Then the time came to accuse Hall, and after that, everything fell downhill. I already ranted about the first testimony. The second one was good. (I was just being a fool about it.) Third testimony... I have to take some credit for my troubles on this one, but even if I hadn’t decided that there was blackmail involved, I probably would never have gotten that combination of evidence. I really, really hate super-objections. After that last cross-examination, I could understand what was being said, but it stopped making sense. I had to look up the answer or some rather large hints every single time, except presenting Hyde’s Assassination and Michelle Hyde. I still have no idea how Oldbag’s Testimony happened.
I can understand how you have such a view, but surprisingly enough, Trial ~ Conclusion has been the favourite trial part for most of the players here... Back when I had the trials being rated, Trial ~ Beginning, one of my favourite parts in terms of gameplay objectives, barely received any votes... the first day of trial was very much along a similar rhythm. Conclusion overtook the two proving to be the more popular part, maybe in part due to its return to conventional AA methods. The difficulty is a bit shocking to hear, as I thought it was far easier in this part, although I will humbly admit my super-objections! deserve rewording and more hinting... I'm mostly quite surprised at the issues with Hall's first testimony.
The issues with the first testimony... No one has raised questions about it being illogical before. The most I've had is that the players knew what the issue would be, but would present the card key on the wrong statement. Given that the issue of the master card key being identified during the confrontation with the bellboy in Trial ~ Beginning, I thought it would be a clear-cut contradiction. She flat out states in the contradictory statement that "Yes, it was there and so I did pick it up." Considering the issues of guilt stockpiling up against Hall, and that this directly contradicted the card key, she couldn't give the same explanation as yesterday. Oh, so that's what happened. The frame where she admits to picking up the key never made it into the revamp. The judge orders her to answer the question, but she just says, "Oh, the question..." and moves on to the next statement about how the door was already barged down. A rather tragic accident, wouldn't you say?
What was the first contradiction you had in mind for the second testimony, the one "TDG" gave you an idea of? [EDIT: Redacted since you posted an answer. Yes, dual locks... ^^]Blackrune and a couple of others did point out a further contradiction with the door, but I tried to clear it up in a press conversation with how the manual/automatic locks work on doors like the ones in Gatewater Imperial... The knife has surprised me at how much controversy it has generated. I thought it would be a further easy contradiction, given Hall had no chance to learn the fingerprints had been wiped, due to her being in the Prosecutor's Lobby/Witness's Lounge and then in detention where no information would come by her... There are two factors at play here. First, I have always had a bit of a hard time with "lack of personal knowledge" contradictions. I've gotten a lot better at line-of-sight problems, but this is the first time in ages that I've seen Unrevealed Knowledge (Type B) where it's a specific aspect of the evidence, rather than the evidence itself, that is the problem. At least I know this for the future.
Secondly, I don't think they're expecting an Unrevealed Knowledge (Type B) contradiction. It's hiding in plain sight.
Oldbag's Testimony... might have been an issue of how the trial was interpreted, and how I presented it. The view the attacker had to have been in the victim's room all that time was first given credibility in Edgeworth's first rebuttal with the statement about De Killer being unable to leave. Although that argument was slowly forgotten as further issues rose, the card key returned to it for a moment, and it was then briefly covered in Apollo's 'flashback' before he accused Hall. Oldbag's Testimony is simple. She claims to have seen a bellboy by their crème uniform. Gaines also claims to have seen a bellboy, or rather, someone wearing the uniform from his window at the restaurant. Given the assumption the attacker had to stay behind, or risk jeopardising their suspicions about Apollo's prints on the inside door handle, this triggers the search for the jacket, which is then found in the ensuite. Oldbag's Testimony delivers the coup de grâce, proving the bellboy she saw leave couldn't have been Hall. In retrospect, my theory about Apollo locking the door to keep the attacker out isn't as strong as I thought. If the killer left voluntarily, why would she come back? Again, I was married to my theory, which prevented me from realizing what was going on.
Then who could it possibly have been? She did say it was right after Apollo entered. Was it just a random bellboy that happened to leave right before Hall arrived? If so, why was the bellboy did there?
I'm disappointed to hear the ending was a disappointment for you. Conclusion does return to the usual AA conventions, and throws a lot information in your face, one testimony after another... Perhaps if I had approached it from a different direction, this problem might haven't been there. Still... your comments have been extremely valuable, and I'm glad you enjoyed playing Sirens (except Conclusion ). I hope there were some parts of Conclusion you did enjoy, though... Such as the dynamics, as you pointed out, and the tying up of the plots. I'll be applying your bug reports as soon as I have the time to do so! I honestly think that a big part of it was the bug in Hall's first testimony, my brain failure on the second one, and being so stubborn on my theory. I don't want to sound like I'm beating myself up, but I have a hard time recovering from stress.
With your comments about the actual 'ending'... well, what's presented is a heart monitor flatlining in in the Intensive Care Ward of Hickfield Clinic. Whether or not it is Thalassa is something you'll find out in Chapter 1 of The Departed Turnabout, which is currently available. It far exceeds Sirens' opening, according to player reports, so I'm sure you'll enjoy it. With any luck, it's the "doctor". And yes, it's on my list of AAO things to do. I want to finish the last eight pages of script I have for my competition case first. (And then I decided to redo the ending, and that part isn't scripted.) I'm right about to begin the final confrontation, so I'm pretty excited to begin putting that into the game.
Thanks for playing! It's been a pleasure to read and reply to your reports! And for the most part, it was a pleasure to play.
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:38 am
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Right. Tomorrow, I've got myself the time to sit down and play for 5 or 6 hours STRAIGHT. I only hope that will be enough to complete the Opening. Seems 2 hour bursts just aren't enough. SCREW MY SPARE TIME. IT BECOME JM TIME.
Now you will suffer as we all have.
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:23 am
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The problem with Departed's crime is that any form of reply would be a major spoiler, including this one, so I have to word my answers incredibly carefully.
>>Oh, I assure you; you already told me more than enough . For starters, I am now 100% sure that neither Tradimento nor Gaines can be Viper.
PS. I can't help but feel that Asp/Viper's true face will be based on or at least a bit inspired by Orochimaru from "Naruto". Both of them have something to do with snakes and use predator-and-prey-related metaphors. Nah. Probably it's just my imagination.
And will Vulper show his face? >>>And will Gaines achieve mangekyō sharingan?
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Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:15 pm
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To hell with this, I'm playing the whole case through without inspecting first, as Tap suggested. This is breaking my brain. I knew this would be the Trial equivilant of climbing Mt. Everest. To further emphasis that fact, I destroyed my radiator. Instead of thinking like a rational human being, I raged.
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Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:09 pm
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To hell with this, I'm playing the whole case through without inspecting first, as Tap suggested. This is breaking my brain. I knew this would be the Trial equivilant of climbing Mt. Everest. To further emphasis that fact, I destroyed my radiator. Instead of thinking like a rational human being, I raged.
TO THE URL.
Hey, at least the Oldbag testimony was taken out. Otherwise, you'd REALLY be angry.
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Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:50 pm
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To hell with this, I'm playing the whole case through without inspecting first, as Tap suggested. This is breaking my brain. I knew this would be the Trial equivilant of climbing Mt. Everest. To further emphasis that fact, I destroyed my radiator. Instead of thinking like a rational human being, I raged.
TO THE URL.
And lemme ask the question on everyone's mind, when did you cave?
And Chaos, it was modified, not taken out.
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Bad Player wrote:
Yes, that's exactly correct. The purpose of the test is to test whether you have an understanding of the material, not if you've simply memorized it and can regurgitate it. In fact, I'm sure the reason he put the 'trick questions' on the test was in order to see who understood the material and was paying attention and who was simply memorizing facts without taking the time and effort to actually understand them.
Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:56 pm
Lord Wolfenstein
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I don't get it. I didn't rage when I played this. O.o Actually, I don't think I've ever raged while playing a case. I've been stumped and horribly crushed, but I never Apollo-raged and stabbed my computer screen with a knife or anything.
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