- Sooooo to clarify I got stuck in TDG Part 2 a
while ago (like, when it first came out) and never
picked it back up. I wasn't far into Feykneme's
confronatation... I've always wanted to go back and
finish but I either A. didn't feel like playing
fancases, B. was lazy, or C. was too busy (like I
am now actually, but because of reason B I have
decided to spend my time playing this instead of
working on stuff I should be working on... so be
happy about that. Oh, oops, forgot that this was in
parentheses.)
- So my point is that I don't remember a DAMN THING
(well that's not true actually, I remember all of
the characters and that there was a ripped up
suicide note and a boarded up door and like 12
gunshots and... ok so I remember stuff but the
point is I don't remember how it all ties together
and WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT I'M TOTALLY
STILL ALLOWED TO PRETEND LIKE THIS IS MY FIRST TIME
PLAYING AND I CAN THEORIZE AND JUNK even though I'm
dumb so yeah
- And I picked this up now because I was going
through the ToC thread and then I saw a buncha
posts from NN and I was like awww I miss him

so
I went through his history and I was like gwufuh I
almost saw TDG spoilers and I haven't played that
yet

...I should probably play that so that I can
read them.
- Hey Gumpei, this is the comma key. USE ME MORE,
DAMMIT.
- I remember the first part feeling very short even
though it was over 2000 frames. Like I thought it
was half that when I played.
- Also, I... have actually been spoiled on a couple
of things. ^^ But really it's just that I've seen
the breakdown, and I know the VERY END of it. How
it leads into Executor, that is.
- MUSIC WILL YOU LOAD ALREADY
- I haven't done commentary like this in a while
(last time I remember doing it was for my
incomplete Downfall commentary that I never posted
due to not finishing because laziness) so uhh... I
don't know where I was going with that.
- This is usually how I do it though. I sit here
and talk to you (even though you don't think you
can see me... oh yeah, and I always abuse the
parentheses to the max) until the game loads.
- Which always takes a long time for me. Music at
80%.
- So how was your day, Burr?
- Yeah, yeah, cool. Mine was pretty good. Just
spending it blowing off work while playing fancases
that won't load.
- Sweet zombie Jesus, the trial is going to take
FOREVER to load isn't it.
- We'll be comin' round the mountain when she
cooooooooooooomes
- We'll be comin' round the mountain when she
cooooooooooooooooooooomes
- We'll be comin' round the mountain
- We'll be comin' round the mountain
- We'll be comin' round the mountain when she
coooooooooooooooooooooooomes
- Ok Burr, everyone has stopped reading, now's your
chance to post Executor spoilers! (or Fated if
you're in the mood)
- Y'see, the worst part about this is that when it
says the music is 91% loaded, it doesn't mean it.
It means that all of the music is going to stop
looping after 15 seconds and you'll be spending
most of the game in complete silence SO YOU SHOULD
HAVE WAITED ANOTHER HOUR TO LOAD THE DAMN MUSIC YOU
JERK
- Oh hey, just as I finished typing that, it
finished.
- BEGIN
- Well that last part of the prologue totally
destroyed my ears, so it turns out I didn't need
the music anyway. SHUCKS
- I actually wish I could have streamed this (was
planning a OHoaT stream a few weeks back since I
never finished that either, but I couldn't find a
proper time to do it) but... actually I just
answered why I couldn't in the parentheses, but in
a parallel dimension where that parentheses doesn't
exist, you won't know the reason. So I hope you
don't live in that dimension.
- Egads! I am eating, typing notes, and playing a
fancase all at the same time! My multitasking
ability is maddening, I say! Maddening! (though
technically I can't type notes and play the case at
the same time but SHUT UP)
- "Here is it" WRITING MASTERFUL (or should I say
assterful)
- Wow, this was back when you actually used music
from the AA soundtrack.
- An anonymous sender sent us a vague letter with
tons of money and asking us to come to a mysterious
location?! GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO
- OMG BURR EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT TO DO IS SUPPOSED
TO BE ABOVE ANY IDEAS GOSH
- Wow it actually feels really weird without fades
XD
- I wish more cases played up Apollo's fame. I
mean, he was in a case that changed the judicial
system. That's pretty big.
- Huh, thought Lira was younger than 16.
- Ok, first thing's first... PRESENT BADGE
- Philo lol
- ...oh wait dammit I just remembere a spoiler that
kinda ruins my opportunity to theorize. ^^ It WAS
suicide... meh.
- yay bad end

- aww no bad end ;_;
- Oh yeah, I haven't been saying stuff but I've
been talking to Ema and yeah
- And now I'm at the crime scene.
- Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh THAT'S why this was 2000 frames!
If you say murder, you argue with Ema, and if you
say suicide, you argue with Lira... nicely done,
I'm impressed!
- Also, since this was made with an older version
of the editor the old Witness Testimony/Cross-
Examination things look transparent for some
reason.
- Along with the Hold Its.
- And Objections.
- Basically everything.
- lol Lira's face
- lol dropped tea
- Actually, I'm beginning to question whether I
misread something that made me think it was a
suicide, because I think no suicides is a Dine
rule...
- Though if Feykneme basically MADE him sui then
I'm not sure if that breaks the rule or not,
because he had to have.
- Don't remember seeing that art before.
- Soooooooooooo I just think Feykneme came in
before Jones did, left his insignia, went outside,
waited for Jones to come in, then he barricaded the
door, then Jones was like onoez and started writing
the suicide note, then he ripped it up and was like
"Screw you Jake" and then he wrote the dying
message, then he went pewpew and he was deaded.
- And the dying message bit might be explained by
Feykneme being a master of disguise... which would
also explain if Hikimori saw him go inside, as I
can't remember if he just saw him at the door or
actually saw him go in.
- And while that theory works now, I already know
it's going to be broken because Jones didn't have
pricked fingers or any signs of blood loss anywhere
else or whatever. Would be too easy otherwise.
- So the only REAL impossibility here is that note.
The door was already barricaded when Jake came by,
so Feykneme had to already be out of the house...
but he heard the gunshot then, and if Feykneme was
already gone, he couldn't have made the dying
message, and if the shot went off then, it means
that Jones was still alive, so his blood couldn't
be used to gaaaaaaah
- If his fingers were pricked, then I will be
absolutely amazed. If they aren't, and I know they
aren't, then I will be convinced that this is
impossible.
- And now I'm tired, so I will sleep on this.
- Or maybe I'm not sleeping. I forgot to turn my
headphones off, so I heard it when the loading
finally finished and it made me get up again. So I
guess I'll be playing until I fall asleep on my
keyboard.
- Oh, right, not the victim's handwriting. So I
change that part in my theory about Jones writing
it to Feykneme writing it and leaving it behind
before he barricaded the place.
- Oh, the display boxes are also super transparent.
- Oh holy crap, his finger WAS pricked! mind=blown
- I have a hard time believing it's that simple,
though. I think I would have figured it out even if
I didn't already know it was suicide.
- I started talking to Blader and forgot to write
stuff here. But now I am because I wanted to say
COUNTER CROSS-EXAMINATIONS NOOOOOOOOO THEY ARE ONE
OF THE SEVEN BANES OF MY EXISTENCE
- At least you had the courtesy to make it only
three statements, so I can't possibly die here.
Though I will get every penalty.
- ...oh neat I didn't get penalized there.
- Didn't miss the second.
- Eh. Got two out of three. Probably the best I've
ever done in terms of purely precentage on a
counter CE.
- Ok, got his testimony now. Still easy to explain.
Feykneme was a master of disguise, so he disguised
himself as Jake, went in and shot 10 times with a
silencer equipped, then took the silencer off for
the final shot, then left with the silencer, Jones
came, he barricaded the door, yadda yadda
- wait what udgey you never said anything about
irrelevant pressing at all
- Ok that was a cheap penalty. -_-
- And I'm not even to the difficult part yet BUT
I'VE ALREADY LOST A THIRD OF MY LIFEBAR DUE TO
CHEAP PENALTIES
- And yes, any penalties gained from a counter CE
are automatically cheap based on the fact that they
are IN a counter CE.
- Umm so I see the contradiction but I figured you
just got it by pressing, because he's contradicting
himself rather than the evidence...
- APOLLO WHY ARE YOU NOT POINTING IT OUT.
- I. See. The. Damn. Contradiction. How. Do. I.
Point. It. Out.
- Oh wait, I'm stupid, I see how now.
- Ok, so Hikimori heard two gunshots...? Because my
theory completely falls apart if so.
- But wait, Jake only heard one... hm.
- Ohhhhhh right. Anime. MY THEORY REMAINS INTACT.
- THIS contradiction... I remember it well. Because
it didn't work on my original playthrough for
whatever strange reason.
- Also, Blader just informed me that the
transparency issue is a thing with Chrome, which
I'm still new to (editor no longer works with
Firefox, so I had to switch). Soooo it's not an
issue with the old player or whatever.
- Oh hey, I bet Feykneme disguised himself as Jones
when he met with Jake, too... this was his pre-
setup to indicating Jake for the murder.
- I'm actually super bummed that I already knew
that it was a suicide, because I legitimately think
I could have figured this entire thing out without
knowing that. D:
- Hey I just met you
And this case is crazy
But here's my number
So call me maybe
- NOW IS HIMITSU TIME
- Soooooo I was thinking the contradiction was that
Feykneme recognized him by his unique clothes, but
he says that he could clearly see fresh blood on
them, but he obviously wasn't found with blood on
him, so yeah.
- ...but I have no idea how to point that out.
- L-shaped knife needs to be actually used in a
case.
- lol him lowering the penalties by one point
actually gave me an extra shot.
- According to Blader, I'm way off. raeg
- Ok I gave up and used the walkthrough. T_T
- I hate contradictions like those. ~_~ I mean, a
big hint was given for it, but I'm just in general
not fond of them...
- That contradiction was waaaay too obvious for it
to not have been a trap.
- ...was it seriously not? ^^
- ...that one was also really easy.
- I thought the contradiction now would be that
Jones wouldn't have been able to write the dying
message if he came in WITH Jake... but apparently
not.
- Well the dying message was still involved anyway.
XP
- So this must be the "Black Box Puzzle"
upcoming...
- Y'know, I'm totally confused about this "X person
went inside" thing. I don't get how they go inside
if the door's barricaded. I think I've been sort of
misinterpreting exactly HOW the door was barricaded
for a while now, because that was the reason I came
up with the whole Feykneme disguise theory, because
when Hikimori said he went inside, I thought he
meant he went inside the house and that it was not
barricaded. But considering it also says the
policeman who got the boards knocked off "went
inside", I'm guessing you've meant something
different this entire time, but that's honestly
pretty poor wording... ^^ If I had to take a guess,
I'd say that the door has something of a cave-like
entrance, with it being in kinda a hole with a roof
overhanging it, so that when someone went in it
would hide them from view and make it look like
they had gone inside. Then again, the black box
shows nothing like this.
- >None in particular
Judge: Hm, I see... why is there a problem with
that particular event?
XD
- That was actually a really freaking clever one,
had to think about it.
- zomg disguise theory is correct
- Wow, he is STILL going.
- inb4Klavierobjects
- Huh, I remember the first time I played TDG, there was a glitch where apparently the last two frames of the case (where Feykneme takes off his hood) played as the game over screen. That always confused the hell out of me.
- Anyway, finished! Only took me a year. And I only had to use the walkthrough once.